Natalia is no feminist

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Hot Woman of the Day: Natalya

Thanks Gustavo for forwarding this link:

Gentlemen, meet Natalia:

Natalia 25

Natalia is a pretty girl, about 25 years old, looking for a Man up to age 33 to marry.

I was just browsing through the many many files of eHarmony profiles I saved before I dumped that service and I see so many 33 year old American women who answer the questions “Do you want children” as “maybe.” How are you 33 years old and you haven’t figured out if you want a family or not?

All you have to do is go around and browse some of the SPERM DONOR WANTED ads and you’ll see so many desperate (single) 42 year old women scrambling to shed their feminist ideology at the last moment.

What is Natalia looking for? In her own words:

I love life and I love living active life and explore. I love to try new activities, to learn about new places, people and cultures. I enjoy traveling, goIng to cultural events and socializing with quality people. I am independent but far from being a feminist. The main value for me is my family.

Think about that for a minute, her main goal in life is to have a family. How refreshing. She’s not trying to save starving orphans in Africa, she’s not trying to raise awareness for Women’s issues in Afghanistan, she’s not trying shame people into not eating meat – in other words, instead of trying to save the planet, she is interested in taking care of HER (future) family.

What do you want in a Woman? Do you want a woman who with whom you’re going to have to compete with starving children in the third world? My Wife’s #1 goal is to make sure I’m fed a good dinner and that I feel loved. Every time I read to her some of the comments (yes, you Lilly) that are on this blog from young feminist women, my Wife laughs and says, “Well Dear, you can’t help everyone.”

You live once. You have one shot at happiness in this world. Do you want to be with a woman who considers you an accessory in her life or do you want a Wife who reveres you and makes you her number one priority?

What about children. The majority of American women don’t even want children. So, if you are interested in family, you will be expected to bring home a paycheck and to also raise the kids. Where is the equity in that? If you want a Wife, who will make you AND YOUR CHILDREN her #1 priority, you need to look outside of America – Australia – England -Sweden – Germany. It is interesting that when I look at where the visitors to this website come from I see that the majority are from countries with the highest levels of feminist sentiment. That says something. There is a deep sense of dissatisfaction among Men in feminist countries and they’re looking for an alternative.

While I was writing this article, my Wife came by and asked what I was doing. I told her the idea of this article: Natalia’s priority is finding a HUSBAND and taking care of her family. Alana said, “Surely American women want the same thing, no?” I whipped out my old eHarmony file and started opening profiles (I saved a few hundred before I ditched my subscription a few years back knowing that they would make great fodder for future articles).

I opened the EH file and she said, “What about that girl?” I clicked on the first photos:

Candace 1

 Her title under her photo: “Trees are my friends.”

Candace 2

Photo title” I see dead people.”

What does she mean she sees dead people?” I explained the 6th Sense movie reference and she gave me an odd look? “Trees are her friends? What is wrong with that girl? What kind of Man is she trying to attract?

I smiled and said, “Exactly.”

I explained that of the hundreds of eHarmony profiles I looked at, NOT ONCE did I ever see a woman write that her first (or even second or third) priority was a husband and/or a family.

Alana looked skeptical so I pressed on.

I opened the next profile and we read that Tara wants to make a life with someone and her number one priority is their happiness.

Tara doesn't want kids

Alana looked at me with a sideways look. “She seems to be a normal Woman.” I told her to hold on and we scrolled down the the profile.

Occupation: Registered nurse

Age: 32

Height: 5′ 5″

Wants kids: Maybe

“Oh,” my Wife exclaimed, “That seems odd.” And indeed it does. If you poll 100 Russian Women who have just finished university (say 22 or 23 years old) and ask the if they want children you’ll get a very different answer. I asked my Wife this same question and she answered, “Not if they want chldren, but how many they will want.” She estimated that 85% or more of the Russian Women would want children (plural) and 95% or more would want at least one child.

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The problem in Russia is economic and she said that if the average Russian college graduate (or non college grad) was able to marry a Man of means and she could choose between 0, 1, 2 or more children, the vast majority would have 2 or more and almost all would have at least one.

Compare to my EH membership. I said, “Only show me women who want children.” 75% of the women indicated “maybe” and 25% said “yes, I want kids.” Had I said, show me “yes, maybe or no” to the children question, perhaps I would have had 90% who didn’t want children. What has happened to American women?

Feminism happened.

We went on and read another profile: this woman is 33 and wants kids. Nowhere in her profile does she offer anything to her prospective new mate nor does she include the idea of a family, companionship nor children in her “must haves.” She lists the ONE most important thing in her life as:

Travelling (she’s more interested in vacation than cooking you dinner)

Food (eating it, not cooking it – interestingly, she does not include her photo; read: fat)

Interior design (WTF does that have to do with finding a Man?)

Keeping fit/sport (really, why no photo then?)

Socializing (no kidding, an American woman who likes to talk?)

Meeting new people (she’ll never be content to settle down in a family life)

and Learning new things (always be weary of any woman who 1. practices Yoga, 2. is into “self development” or 3. is into “psychology” – it means she’s nuts herself)

We go on to look at the next profile: A woman who moved to the wilderness. She is most proud that she bought her own farm and loves her life with her cats and dogs (child surrogates). She is interested in a Man who will drop his life and move to her house.

Wants kids? No.

Next profile: Nicole from New York (strike 1 against any woman from NY or LA)

The ONE thing she is most passionate about:

Movies (this is supposed to be one thing she is most passionate about, as all the Western women do, she gives a list and no where will you ever see family, husband and/or children)

Good conservative [sic] (WTF is that? this is your resume for love, perhaps you could proof read? If she can’t get this right, how is dinner going to turn out? Will you trust her to get your kid to school on time?)

Mexican restaurants (danger, think tortilla ass)

Riding bikes (yet no photo)

Swimming (again, no photo)

#westernwomensuck

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Stretching (I’d like to see what she’s stretching)

Reading (anti-Man propaganda & articles no doubt)

Psychology (yikes, she’s nuts! –  that’s a danger sign, see above)

In her “how I spend my leisure time,” she writes:

“… and drinking Margaritas at Mexican restaurants.”

Oh yes, be sure to get the STD check before first date and strap a board to your ass so you don’t fall in…

And finally:

Wants kids: Maybe

My Wife spotted a blonde Woman, “What about her?” I sensed that this was becoming a sport, try to prove husband wrong ;-)

I pulled up Somers from Nashville, Tennessee.

Tennesse woman doesn't want kids

She looks pretty, aged 29, 5′ 8″, so she’s tall. Looks good so far.

What she’s most passionate about? She writes, “I am most passionate about making the people in my life feel loved and happy.”

“Ah, ha!” Alana said, as though she finally found a “normal” American woman.

We scrolled down:

She describes herself, “… I tend to be very abstract in my thinking.” In other words, she’s a little nuts and she’s not afraid to admit it. I can predict a life with this woman and it doesn’t necessarily include a happy husband.

And then we read:

Wants kids: Maybe

My Wife said to me, “Well, I didn’t write that I wanted a husband and kids in my Elena’s Model’s ad. I said, “Really?” and started filing through my files. “You saved it?!” she sounded half surprised and half pleased that I saved it. I pulled up an Adobe .pdf and we read about her wants and desires in her description. And then in the “what are you looking for,” and we read what my Wife had written a few years ago:

“I’m looking for my special Man for me and it doesn’t matter where he lives.”

I asked her, when you wrote that, did it mean you were willing to leave your friends and family to find love and a family of your own? and she replied, “Yes.”  And then I asked her, have you seen any woman here who has offered to give up anything at all to find a Man and/or a family?” She shook her head no and said, “I see.” I could see that she was really thinking about it and the attitudes of the American women seemed so foreign to her. Just as the American women read this website in horror as we travel in America and Alana meets (and sees) American women, she is put off and surprised at their attitudes and desires.

While I continued to finish this article, she went to make us some lunch (some lovely sausages I bought at the Carneceria yesterday with some rolls & a salad).

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50 thoughts on “Natalia is no feminist

  1. Great article, Scott. One of your best. I will repeat myself, when I get home tonight, I am going to hug my wife and daughter extra long….I am so lucky, fortunate and happy to have pursued my dream, and every mile traveled was worth its weight in gold. My best to you and your growing family.

  2. Where you say that your wives main concern is that your fed a good supper, this is taught to women when they are very young, well at least in the East as it was once here in the states, maybe 70 years ago.

    Anyway, my girlfriend, future wife’s little 9 year old nice who is so excited to meet an American (I am going to spend 3 weeks with my GF and her family here in a few months) as she has never seen one outside of the movies and I assume TV (my GF family live in a small village in the farm land of Isabella provenance of the Philippines, I think she is related to 90% of the village too)
    Anyway, the niece, who is 9 years old mind you, wants to learn English so she can talk to me, YES she wants to learn my language, not the other way around. Small village, no one there speaks English from what the GF said, but anyway, the niece asked my GF to teach her English, the 1st words she wanted to learn to say to me was….Get this…
    ” Tita Scott (Uncle Scott) Have you had enough to eat? would you like more food? are you hungry?”
    This is from a 9 year old girl, she wanted to learn this in English so she would make sure I was not hungry…9 years old!

    Get this from any 9 year old girl here in the states? no, it would be more like, me having to learn how to understand what the brat wants me to buy her…

    Even my GF was kinda shocked, she (GF) thought her neice would at least want to say hello and ask how I was doing before serving me supper LOL..

    Oh, speaking of supper, talking to the GF on Skype while doing anything around the house like cooking, cleaning or laundry always brings a huge grin to her face, after all I am the 1st man she has ever seen do any house chores. She laughs out loud ever time she sees me “fold” clothes, more like roll them up and stick in a drawer, and there my full of holes, stained to death work clothes, I fold them all wrong according to her. So I told her when she comes home to our house, she can fold them the way she likes and that made her so happy….
    Happy wife, happy life…
    I made mine happy just by stating that since I do not own an iron or iron board that I would have to buy her one (she likes to iron, it’s fun she says????) I might as well said I was buying her a new Rolls Royce she would not had been any happier, actually she would scold me for spending that kind of money on her….

    Why oh why did I not find a gal from the east 20 years ago?

  3. I guess the feminist hens will need something useful to do, after they realize 10 cats can never replace a rooster.
    I want at least 3 kids…I hope my future bride from South America or the Eastern Bloc wants the same!

  4. Yeah one of your best. Really enjoyed the read. You should actually write this styled article (comparing the cultures) on a more regular basis. Just go through your entire file. “strap a board to your ass so you don’t fall in…” I’m going to use that one soon. Had me in stitches! Well done mate!

  5. I am confused on why a married guy would be looking up online profiles for any reason when he is taken. Many women have changed their views on having children throughout the lives. Some of us want to adopt. Some of us put maybe because we don’t know if our future partner will want kids. Others may be facing underemployment and being overeducated in this economy. I see no problem with feminism. Strong men can handle it. Even Gloria Steinhem got married. Society has evolved past the point of women just having kids. Sure, they still like to cook for their spouses. Most American households now require two incomes due to inflation. For women coming from other countries, they are raised in a different culture. It is possible to be family-oriented and to realize your not cut out to be a parent. You are saving a kid from having a crappy life in the process. Personally, I have no respect for women who are just housewives. Those of us who work also have chores to do. I grew up with an abusive father and a mother who only attended one year of college. She stayed in an abusive marriage with two young kids longer than needed to try to save money to leave. I was one of those kids. I learned early on to always rely on yourself first. Then you never have to stay in an unhealthy relationship due to financial constraints or having too many kids you can’t afford to support on your own. I am not implying all families are abusive. I am just stating there are other perspectives to consider aside from what is in your article. I believe women are equal to men in terms of rights and freedoms. Glad you are happy. Not all western women suck or don’t want to have kids. To each their own.

    • Bonnie, thanks for your comment. As you have a lot of different ideas in your comment, I’m going to break it down line by line:

      I am confused on why a married guy would be looking up online profiles for any reason when he is taken.
      Not sure what you mean by this? Are you talking about me? Why wouldn’t I be looking at online profiles if I write about them? That’s like asking “Why would that Al Jazeera journalist write a story about the drinking culture in Dubai if he doesn’t drink?”

      Many women have changed their views on having children throughout the lives.
      Exactly the point of this whole blog.

      Some of us want to adopt.
      There is NO reason to adopt except that you are physically unable to bear your own children. Any thought to the contrary is the result of feminist brainwashing. Adoption is great, but nothing beats being a parent to your own child. As Howard Stern best said it, “Pride of ownership.”

      Some of us put maybe because we don’t know if our future partner will want kids.
      That’s a load of crap. If you want kids, you find a Man who wants kids. Women put “maybe” because they are seriously confused. On the one hand, society tells them that being a Mother is inferior to being a working woman but this thing inside of their bodies, hmmm, lets call it instincts says something else.

      Others may be facing underemployment and being overeducated in this economy.
      Jesus, can we put any more PC words into one sentence? Oh, you forgot to use “empowered.” You sound like a walking-talking feminist robot.

      I see no problem with feminism.
      Of course you don’t. Most Western women don’t. That’s why Men are looking overseas in record numbers.

      Strong men can handle it.
      Weak Men can handle it. Ignorant Men can handle it. Men with no choice can handle it. No Man returning from Russia or Ukraine will ever consider it. Think about that for a minute, it means something.

      Even Gloria Steinhem got married.
      So did Charles Manson. Your point?

      Society has evolved past the point of women just having kids.
      I’ve seen what our society has evolved to and I want my family to be no part of it; androgynous children with 3″ circles in their ears, 28 tattoos and an overwhelming desire to fly to Uganda to save AIDS babies.

      Sure, they still like to cook for their spouses.
      My Wife loves to cook for me. But here is the difference: Western women see it as “doing a favor” for their spouse whereas my Wife sees it as her duty.

      Most American households now require two incomes due to inflation.
      More propaganda that you’ve injested without really researching or analyzing. Most American households need two incomes to keep up with the Joneses. Cut out eating out for 3 meals a day x 30 days a week. How about 1 car instead of 2 or 2 used cars instead of regular payments? How about a house that fits the family, not one that impresses the in-laws. Corporate America has done a great job of making us into robot consumers. How is it that so many immigrant Muslim families can have 6 kids on 1 income? Of course, if the average American family didn’t eat out every night, they would starve because Mom can’t cook.

      For women coming from other countries, they are raised in a different culture.
      Ah, we agree on something!

      It is possible to be family-oriented and to realize your not cut out to be a parent.
      That is perhaps the saddest sell out of the “average” American woman. Sure, there are some who fit this category, but not 90% of American women so indoctrinated today.

      You are saving a kid from having a crappy life in the process.
      “I’m not going to college because I’ll probably fail. So, I’m doing society a favor by not taking the seat that a smarter kid could have had.” Gentlemen, I hope you’re reading this. There are Women in Russia and Ukraine who would do just about anything (including leave their friends and family) to have the opportunity to have a family. As Americans we are so spoiled and this certainly has crossed over to the women as well. “I won’t be a parent because I’m saving a kid from having a crappy life.” What a load of shit.

      Personally, I have no respect for women who are just housewives.
      Thank you. You’ve just admitted what I’ve been telling all of the Men on this website for years. Feminists have a deep sense of disdain for “housewives.” Gentlemen, think about that when you select your Wife. Do you want a woman with this attitude?

      Those of us who work also have chores to do. I grew up with an abusive father and a mother who only attended one year of college. She stayed in an abusive marriage with two young kids longer than needed to try to save money to leave. I was one of those kids. I learned early on to always rely on yourself first.
      Me too. I resolved that my children would be loved and have everything I didn’t have. The only difference between my approach to the problem and yours is the introduction of feminist brainwashing on your part.

      Then you never have to stay in an unhealthy relationship due to financial constraints or having too many kids you can’t afford to support on your own.
      Why stop there? Why not put all sorts of qualifiers on marriage so that when it gets hard you can pull that rip cord and bail out?

      I am not implying all families are abusive. I am just stating there are other perspectives to consider aside from what is in your article.
      Sure, there are exceptions to every rule. But, in your case, you are not an exception to the feminist mindset that will be the demise of Western society. This may be a difficult concept for you to grasp as our society is so intertwined and brainwashed into feminist-think, but your replies are the epitome of everything that is wrong with American women. And for that, I again thank you for your comment and hope that the Men here are reading – and THINKING ABOUT the difference(s).

      I believe women are equal to men in terms of rights and freedoms.
      You’ll get no disagreement from me there. But you also believe that Men and women should be equal/equal 50/50, no? This will never work. Show me one sports team that has 11 players and 11 captains.

      Glad you are happy. Not all western women suck or don’t want to have kids. To each their own.
      I am. Sure, not all Western women suck; we’ve previously identified that Muslim Women, Mormon Women and Orthodox Christian Women don’t suck. For all else, it’s pretty much a crap shoot with loaded dice.

      • “Most American households now require two incomes due to inflation.”
        More propaganda that you’ve injested without really researching or analyzing. Most American households need two incomes to keep up with the Joneses. Cut out eating out for 3 meals a day x 30 days a week. How about 1 car instead of 2 or 2 used cars instead of regular payments? How about a house that fits the family, not one that impresses the in-laws. Corporate America has done a great job of making us into robot consumers. How is it that so many immigrant Muslim families can have 6 kids on 1 income? Of course, if the average American family didn’t eat out every night, they would starve because Mom can’t cook.
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        and
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        “Strong men can handle it”.
        Weak Men can handle it. Ignorant Men can handle it. Men with no choice can handle it. No Man returning from Russia or Ukraine will ever consider it. Think about that for a minute, it means something.
        ———————
        Two great points! The two excuses she gave are complete rubbish; classic examples of wanting your cake and eating it.

      • Oh my! I had to read this piece a little bit at a time, between my fits of laughing, at the idiocy and sheer arrogance of this deluded “Bonnie”. M’Lady, you have done an enormous favor for those men who are looking for a real woman, to be a cherished wife and life partner from overseas. Good job!

    • You’re likely well-meaning in your opinions, but please be aware you’re implicitly supporting the downfall of Western civilisation.

      Sir John Glubb’s excellent “The Fate of Empires” describes the 6 main phases of a civilisation:

      (1) Age of Pioneers.
      (2) Age of Conquest.
      (3) Age of Commerce.
      (4) Age of Affluence.
      (5) Age of Intellect.
      (6) Age of Decadence.
      An empire undergoes a meteoric rise during phases 1-3; peaks in 4 and 5, but problems come to a head in 6. What goes wrong is traceable to four interrelated problems.

      (a) A growing love of money as an end in itself.
      (b) A lengthy period of wealth and ease, which makes people complacent. They lose their edge; they forget the traits (confidence, energy, hard work) that built their civilization.
      (c) Selfishness and self-absorption.
      (d) Loss of any sense of duty to the common good.
      Decadence is then marked by most or all of the following:

      (a) Increasing pessimism among intellectuals.
      (b) A weakening of religion.
      (c) Materialism and the loss of a moral compass.
      (d) Frivolity; hedonism; an “eat, drink, and be merry” mindset among the masses.
      (e) Cultural heroes/heroines are nonproductive entertainers (athletes, celebrities) instead of statesmen, captains of industry, or other real leaders.
      (f) Influxes of immigrants who refuse to assimilate and become sources of division.
      (g) Feminism: women move into professions previously dominated by men.
      (h) The willingness of an increasing number to live at the expense of a bloated bureaucratic state.
      (i) An obsession with sex.”

      Sounds familiar?

  6. Bravo, Scott! Brilliant responses. Thanks Bonnie for your comments, truly you suck.

    Cheers!
    From a happy American man married with child to gorgeous, lawyer, housewife, mother, wife – Ukrainian lady. And not living in America so I don’t have to be near women like you, and to give my daughter a chance to grow up like her mother.

    My choice, I earned it, US Army Veteran.

    • Well, I don’t think that Bonnie sucks as a person, maybe just her views? Her comment was well worded and generally polite. Or was it?

      Bonnie says:
      “Personally, I have no respect for women who are just housewives.”

      Wow, just think about that for a minute. How arrogant. How crass. I’m better than you because I chose to work and you chose to raise your children. Feminism teaches young women that if they don’t have a job, they are worthless in this society. Bonnie has embraced this brainwashing and now it manifests in how she thinks and acts.

      What kind of a person, in today’s society, gets away with looking down on another person based on their career, their family or their status in society? This is really no different than some rich prick getting out of his Bentley, goes into an elevator and then when a blue-collar working man gets on the elevator the rich prick holds his nose, makes a rude comment or throws a look or gets off of the elevator because he refuses to be in close proximity to such a “low person.” What is the difference with Bonnie? She just said, in plain English, that she looks down her nose at Women who chose family over work. And not only does she think in this backwards ignorant fashion, she expouses her opinion whenever she can and other women hear it, agree with her and carry on in the same fashion.

      Lets parallel this with a white supremist in Selma, Alabama in 1962. “I have no respect for black people.” Now, based on that person’s upbringing, that is a normal thought process for them, in that place at that time. But when you look at it, they’re a straight racist. And no one today, would put up with such an attitude.

      Yet, Bonnie is applauded for being a “strong woman.”

      When you look at her rude, condescending and arrogant remark, you have to wonder:

      What does this make Bonnie?

      • This isn’t the first time I’ve heard a woman say this about housewives either, and it makes my blood boil. My sister-in-law (who had 3 kids by her 28th birthday) felt shame when her careerist ‘friends’ implied that their lives were more ‘complete’ than hers, as if she was a loser for being a housewife. I always thought the basis of feminism is to give women freedom to choose whether she wants to work or raise children.

        But it’s all been laid bare – feminists don’t believe in giving women freedom of choice.

        • Gezza, I’ve heard and seen this same disgusting attitude plenty of times before. A woman that is beautiful, moral, frugal, and devotes her life to her family instead of career advancement is seen as weak in western society.

  7. The entire reason I said “she sucked.” I took that as an insult and was defending my wife and our values. I am not diverging from what I said. Her words were a ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing,’ with that brazen comment.

  8. Just re-read this article due to proving a point to someone and posting the link on Facebook. It was an even better read the second time around :)

  9. Hi there! I’m a married 25-year-old woman (yes, a western one…) who definitely wants children. Here’s the thing: I only feel comfortable telling you I definitely want children, because I’m already married to a man I know wants to have them with me. The overwhelming majority of women on dating sites are there because they also want children. Unless she put down a hard “no,” every 33-year-old woman on eHarmony hopes she’ll find someone online to start a family with. But when a woman is single and childless in her thirties, men are often reluctant to date her because they worry she’ll be desperate and pressuring them to move in step with her biological clock, clammoring for marriage and babies before they’re ready. At least that’s how she expects them to feel (I can’t comment one way or the other on the validity of that expectation). And so she’ll try to act like kids aren’t that big of a deal by writing “maybe” she wants them. She’s trying to take the pressure off of potential partners so they’ll take the time to get to know her without constantly imagining she’s scheming to get pregnant. Perhaps she’s also indicating that she’d be willing to settle for a man who doesn’t want children, because she’d rather be childless than totally alone. What a 33-year-old woman means by “maybe,” is “Yes, I want kids, but please don’t freak out. I would even be willing to compromise… maybe?”

    • Hi Beth. Thank you for your thoughts and perspective. And congratulations on your marriage and wishes to grow your family.

      Responding to your scenario played out on dating sites, I’d like to share what I remember when looking at EE dating sites. There are rather large differences from what EE ladies seek and what a WW puts in her profile, as well researched by Scott. Rarely, do I ever recall an EE lady putting “maybe.” For me, if I saw that, I would skip her with no hesitation. Why would I waste my energy, time and money on someone that I might have to debate with or pull out of her what she really wants? I much prefer knowing up front if she wants babies or not.

      Fortunately for us guys that find an EE lady, its hardly an issue. Its more a given that after marriage, children will shortly follow.

      • Good point Rodney and congrats Beth.
        I think that’s one of the reasons most of the guys are reading this blog — they are not just looking for a girlfriend but a wife and mother of their future children. They are tired of trying to figure out what each sex wants and expects out of the relationship.
        I — and hopefully the rest of the guys here — would rather know what I am getting.

      • Thanks, Rodney! It’s true that EE women seem much more forthcoming online about their desire for children. I think that is partly because of the cultural differences you and Scott have pointed out. I think it’s also partly due to the fact that on a dating site that pairs EE women with western men, the women know that just about all the men on the site are already marriage-minded. A casual dating scenario is almost impossible to keep up with a girl you live thousands of miles away from, so you must want to get serious and close the distance through marriage. With that assurance, these women can be more upfront. They don’t have any pressure to “play it cool” and keep things casual for the first few months until the guy falls in love (as is typical when two westerners date). A lot of women think of men like frogs in pot: you have to turn up the committment level very, very gradually so he doesn’t get scared and hop off the stove. I personally find this game extremely frustrating and immature, but it’s a product of how our culture’s dating rituals have developped over the last few decades. I think many of the women on e-Harmony are trying to “play it cool.” If they knew for sure that the only people reading their profiles were men looking for wives, they might have different answers. There would probably still be more “no”s to the kids question than you’d find on an EE dating website, but I think most women would answer “yes,” and almost no one would answer “maybe.”

        Regardless of all the reasons EE women and American women answer that question differently on dating sites, I can certainly see why, when looking for a wife, it’s a better experience to date a woman who knows what she wants, and is totally honest about it. I’m glad your approach seems to have worked for you. That’s all that matters in the end. A life partnership filled with love, mutual respect, and shared values can be difficult to come by!

  10. Great post! It’s amazing that the girls in the Ukraine don’t understand what’s going on over here in America. None of the girls I dated including my fiance understand it because it is so foreign to them. Their thought process doesn’t’ work that way. It is soooooo refreshing.

  11. Natalia didn’t say her main focus was having a family it was her family. That means one that is currently there not one to be. Why misquote her, or am I misunderstanding. I am seeking how to be a good woman and Google’s western vs eastern women. Where are the articles that can help a eastward woman who is a victim of her societies social norms? Or does this site only seek to tear down and offer no uplifting or education?

    • yes, because that’s what Western society needs, more ways to uplift and educate western women…

      perhaps if you knew some Ukrainian Women you would understand the post.

      Natalia thinks of her family as her parents, siblings and future husband and children, not her dogs, not her girlfriends and certainly not the orange & purple haired lesbian woman with the nose ring at the local coffee shop.

      “An Eastern Woman who is a ‘victim’ of her societies norms.” Gents, have a good read of that sentence. Do you see what I mean?

      • Scott, this was an amazing article! Loved it from A to Z.
        So damn true..
        I use to play the same “game” with my wife when we have a minute:). We get online and check some Canadian female dating profiles on PlentyOfFish, pick the age of 30+ y.o. and just browse.
        An overwhelming majority of those Canadian females have a laundry list of requirements to a male without ever wanting to give up on any of her priorities.
        True again, most of Canadian females “replace” kids with cats and dogs or “nights out with the girls”. Kids are considered an unnecessary burden by any “successful career oriented independent western female”.

        • Here I’ve compiled a snapshot of Canadian female dating profiles to further confirm that Scott is RIGHT.

          1. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=106414869

          36 y.o., ain’t got no kids and doesn’t even want to talk about this issue, but got a dog; ain’t even serious about dating. All that at the age of 36.

          2. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=108930410

          45 y.o., ain’t got no kids and does NOT want ANY!! Her longest relationship at the age of 45 (!!!) was just over 1 year long! DAMN! Just think about it! At the damn age of 45! Longest relationship!!!!! Just over 1 damn year!!!! And of course her interests include “Wine, Travel, Culture, Cycling, Politics , yoga and VOLUNTEERING”!!!!!

          3. http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=45121166

          55 y.o. and sure ain’t got no kids. But she writes down “undecided/open” in the profile column which asks her if she wants kids!
          WHAT? Lady, you ain’t gonna get no damn kids at 55 y.o. ! Stop being delusional!
          Of course she’s a manager who took career as a priority and never bothered to have any kids or a strong relationship!
          And of course there are “traveling, reading, dinner and conversation, hiking, cycling and art galleries” among her top priorities and interests!
          It took me 2 clicks of a mouse and 10 seconds to find these profiles listed on just one page of PlentyOfFish, it was effortless.
          But do not fool yourself-EVERY page of any North American dating sites contains those “samples”.
          Run, North American, males, just RUN! Pack you bags and get out, if you don’t want to be left with 55 y.o. females who are still undecided if they want to have kids at that age!

          • FC,
            I clicked through some of the other Canadian POF profiles….the descriptions and list of demands. “A few extra pounds,” more like “a few extra tons!”…the thin/athletic ones on POF are delusional too. Even the Catholic girls on POF…what a slap in the face for someone like myself. No wonder you left Canada and never looked back!

          • Seeker, you are absolutely right!
            Being morbidly obese equals having “a few extra pounds” in Canada.
            Athletic girls on POF get literally hundreds of message DAILY and can pick and choose ANY male they want thus consider themselves Miss Universe with a laundry list of demands.
            I’ve never regretted my decision to leave Canada for 1 second nor have I ever looked back or contemplated to return to Canada!
            Canada and Canadian females have to be avoided by all means possible and whenever possible!

      • I think Crystal missed the point. People from different cultures can say or write the same thing in one language but imply different ideas, emotions, or outcomes. For example; a woman from Los Angeles that states she “takes care of her man” is implying something totally different than a woman from Santiago stating that she “takes care of her man.” The same would apply to other parts of the world too, like London vs. Moscow or Berlin vs Hanoi…etc. I reread the article again to see if I missed something and I had to see that name (Lxxly) again…ughhh!

  12. Hi Former Canadian,

    I have been busy.
    However I have a question for you about your comment:
    Forget about the idea of “meeting a pretty foreign stewardess” at any major Canadian international airport.
    The airline long haul cabin crew is always taken away from the plane ASAP and on to the hotel to rest. Just imagine how they all feel having worked 10+ hours on a non stop flight going through several time zones.
    Do you think that sex is on their mind after such a flight?

    I agree with your response. However, what I meant by my question was and maybe you did not get what I was saying. What I was basically asking was Scott saying that these stewardesses at international airport hubs only hang out with the guys that they work alongside such as the pilot, and other members of the airplane crew? What about guys they meet at the hotel, or bar/ nightclub? What about guys they meet on the airplane? I do not want to be crude but have heard of the Mile High Club.

    I was just curious on your opinion. I oftentimes like to ask questions that may seem impolite or crude even if I do not agree with a situation or viewpoint because I figure it is better to be as informed as possible so I can make the best possible decision.

    Also are you going to celebrate Christmas with your Ukrainian family or Canadian family separate with two Christmas, one this month and one next month or all together as one big celebration!

    I was also wondering if you could tell me your real name if you wish.
    If you do not wish to do so I understand. I am just wondering if maybe I have met you or know you from my past

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year To Everyone!

    William Cavers

    • William, you seem to be overly obsessed with the idea of having sex with a female flight attendant.
      I honestly have absolutely NO idea about the behavior of all those flight attendants when they have some free time between flights. And I honestly do not want to know. There is so much more in our lives than to try and box in a flight attendant;)
      I’ll be celebrating Ukrainian Christmas, but I’m not overly religious.
      And NO, I ain’t gonna tell you my real name. I can only assure you that our life paths have never crossed and you do NOT know me.

  13. Also I do have a little bit of Learning Disability?

    Do you think that it would effect my chances?

    In every other way I am a normal, polite, and fun-loving guy.

    William

    • Learning or any other disability has nothing to do with your chances. Your chances depend only and entirely on YOU!
      On your education, values, knowledge, experiences, visions of life and people around you, ability to lead by example, to dare to have an own opinion and to differ, to stand up and be counted! Do not look for excuses, look for solutions!

    • William ,

      Until now , I have only been reading your posts.From what I understand , it seems , that you may be a little uncertain , about some aspects.
      Aspects , which may have to deal , with some or more , personal issues.

      You should understand , that it is even (more ) better , when you , have believe in yourself.
      Try to make it clear , for yourself , what are the real focusing points (goals) , in your life.

      Find , your strong(est) points , as a person.The ones , which , you think , should become better , try and work , to improve them.
      Draw the boundaries , in which , you want to live your life.As a social(ized) and integer human being.

      Respect and maintain , your own , and other people`s , principles.Always , try to live your life , on the right side of the law.

      Is it all , going to be easy ?? Hell , no !!
      It is very difficult , to look in the mirror and critisize yourself.
      It is even more difficult , to hold on to your own moral values and principles.

      To , be a good citizen , with a social and polite attitude.
      But , it will all add , to your personality.And , people will regard you , as someone , with whom , you can spend time with , or have a conversation.

      Nothing , comes easy in life.And , life , is a learning stage.
      No matter , at what age , you can still learn something new.

      And , when you believe in yourself , no matter what setbacks , you may face , they will not with hold you , from reaching , your goal(s).

      It is , with such attitude , that can help you , to find a good woman or young girl , in Russia or EE.

      Be yourself , believe in yourself and know , that you can reach your goal.

      All the best

      Paul

      • VERY good points, VERY good ones!!! I honestly hope that William takes time and effort to think what they really mean and what’s the value behind them!

  14. Hi Former Canadian,

    Would you say that Russia/ Ukraine care more about who you are than what you do as long as you are decent loving hard working guy?

    Furthermore I do not have huge muscles but I am not out of shape or overweight.

    William

  15. Hi Former Canadian,
    1) How did you and your wife meet? Aren’t you and your wife fitness trainers?
    2) How long did you date before you got married and how long did you wait before you asked her out?
    3) Where do you to live and what city was your wife from in Ukraine?
    4) Any children or plans to have children?

    • 1. Me and my wife met at our fitness and watersports center. Yes, we are both fitness and watersports instructors.
      2. We dated for about 7 months before getting married, but it took me 5 minutes to ask her out;)
      3. My wife was born in central Ukraine. We have several places to live in the country.
      4.We have 1 child right now and plan to have more in the very near future;)

  16. Hi Former Canadian,

    I have heard that Russian/ Ukrainian do like to smile while walking down the street and that if I simile at a girl on the street they will think that I am an idiot. This is what Scott said.

    I have also heard that Russian/ Ukrainians are very stand-offish until they get to know you. They also do not like to make small-talk about they get to know you. Scott also said this as well.

    What is your opinion on these topics? How did it go with your wife or any other women you met in Russia/ Ukraine?

    Thanks

    William

    • Hi William! Let me try and answer your questions.

      I’d say that Scott is somewhat right and people here do not smile too often like people do in USA or Canada. I personally do not really care if people smile or not but it just feels friendlier in Canada or USA when people ain’t afraid to smile and enjoy small things in life. Ukrainians/Russians for this matter ain’t that open or friendly to a stranger. But if you do approach a girl in a bar, night club or disco, then smiling will take you a long way since being friendly and open is appreciated in those settings.
      Yes, Russians/Ukrainians MAY BE standoffish until they really get to know you, small talk ain’t very popular here, but don’t forget years and years of Communist upbringing when everyone around could be a “spy” as told by massive propaganda ;)

      I personally have never had any problems with women here cause I’m one big mothafucker and approach people with a smile, open heart and friendly soul;). I’ve been working with people all my life and do understand psychology a bit, it sure helps.
      I’ve asked my wife out after mere 5 minutes long conversation and we hit it off instantly. We share same views, values and standards in everything in life and it does make life and interactions a lot easier.
      The main thing in Russia/Ukraine is not to be afraid of talking to people here, interacting with them, being open, friendly and honest.

  17. Hi Former Canadian,

    You could tell what your future wife was all about in 5 minutes?
    How long did it take you learn Ukrainian (your wife language) and how did you learn it?
    How much English does your wife know? Is hard to find a woman that speaks some in English in Ukriane/ Russia? (ie Scott says it depends on their level of education?
    Also do you know anything about Belarus or any other regions of Eastern Europe?
    Would you say that Belarus is similar to Ukraine/ Russia in terms of cultural and society?
    Should I not talk to people in Russia/Ukraine on the streets or out in public that I have never met? Where I am most likely to meet women that want to meet, flirt with, and get to know single guys that they have never met before? (ie public gathering places like nightclubs, libraries, bookstores, colleges, fitness centers, dance clubs, churches, restaurants, etc)?
    What about Facebook or social media how would that work for meeting new women?

    Scott has promoted some Russian/ Ukrainian online dating sites such as Russian Cupid or Ukrainian Cupid. What do you think of them? Do you think that they are scams like Dream Connections because Scott met his wife Alana through Russian Cupid or some other online dating site?

    Do Russian/ Ukrainian women like to flirt and enjoy compliments?
    Also what is the situation in workplace (the worst in North America)/ or campus (which is just as bad if not worse). Is there all this PC stuff where you cannot complement, flirt or ask out a women without getting in trouble or fired? Knowing me I would be complimenting any women be it a female teacher or student on campus or a co-worker or even a hot female boss!
    Thanks,
    William

    • Holy cow, William, you definitely love to ask questions.
      You should come to Eastern Europe yourself and experience it all on your own.
      Of course I couldn’t tell what my future wife was all about in 5 minutes that’s why I did ask her out on a date! This is how it works in real life, William;) A male asks a female out on a date;)
      I speak several foreign languages thus learning Russian has never been a problem.
      My wife does speak some English. And yes, the ability of a Russian/Ukrainian female to speak English depends a lot on her education.
      I ain’t familiar much with Belarus, sorry.
      I have never used Russian/Ukrainian dating website and have no idea about their trustworthiness or reliability.
      You should come here yourself for a month or so instead of asking endless questions online.

  18. I have always been attracted to Russian/ Ukrainian women, but I have found myself at times being more attracted to women from other regions of other world open such as from Asia, other parts of Eastern Europe outside of former Soviet Union and especially Latin American ladies.
    I love the Russian/ Ukrainian ladies, but sometimes I found to be a bit aloof until I get to know them some more.

    This is just an observation. Whatever works right?

  19. You guys are going to love this. This “woman” claims to not be a feminist anymore. Try not to puke too much or wince at every other word out of her mouth dropping an f-bomb.

    • Sex workers have short shelf lives (to make a lot of money and enjoy the rollercoaster of fame) when a new batch of barely legal women hit the market every day all over the world. She’s still a feminist…cashing in her chips before crashing into the wall. Smart move. She’ll find a sucker that will take the bait…but that’s not my problem.

  20. I’m from Brazil. Have no idea how to talk to women, as a matter of fact, I’m afraid and socially anxious when I approach one. I’m 19 years old. I wasn’t like that a few years ago, I was outgoing and wanted to have a girlfriend. At that time I thought women wanted a prince charming who would be able to care for the family with her and live a good life of partnership together. I believed that it was my duty to be that man, not a prince, but a hardworking gentleman who would do anything to support his family and his wife. Now, I’m a young adult. Women don’t want those “silly” dreams anymore, I don’t know what they want. I don’t know what I have to offer them. I don’t know how to approach them. I am completely confused. The only thing I can do now is compete with these bitches to get the job of my dreams so I can sustain my own sorry ass.

    • Bullshit! You do NOT have to compete with anyone! YOU are your best friend as well as your worst enemy!
      Do not call women bitches, just be yourself, get educated and sporty, get intellectual, learn a foreign language or two, save some money and then the whole world will be yours.

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