No game whatsoever


First and foremost, the purpose of this post is to educate.  I intend to share some of the pitfalls that western men encounter when they come to the CIS (former USSR countries), especially dealing with marriage brokers and agencies.

All that said, have a look at some of these photos.  Do they look a little ridiculous to you?  That’s because they are ridiculous.  I’ve talked to hundreds of western men and they all tell me about how this or that woman loves them or wants to meet them – but they’ve never even talked to the woman, they’ve relied on a marriage agency for communication.  If you are going to communicate to a woman using an agency you have to KNOW that the agency is honest.

I have had dealings with Anastasia, Brides of Ukraine and IDC and I can say that they are all bogus!

If you look at these photos and you don’t believe that these guys have a chance in hell of marrying one of these women you have to wonder  how did they come to have dates with these women.  The reason is that these agencies have LIED to these men telling them that these women are interested in a relationship.  I’ve sat through lunch or dinner and watched and listened to hundreds of these dates and they are all pretty much the same.  The girls ask the same questions, say flattering things to the men and the men REALLY believe that they have a shot at these beauties.

It is all really quite sad.

In the photo above, in Odessa’s walking district, this guy has a date with the woman in pink.  The interpreter in red/white polka dots is the interpreter.  I’ve seen this woman on ‘dates” with other men using different interpreters and I’ve seen these interpreter on other dates with different women.  The interpreter charges US $10 to $15 per hour and pays the woman $5 per hour to  “milk the date out” as long as she can.

And so, these men take these women out for expensive dates, buy them gifts and pay interpreters for date after date that never goes anywhere.

If you are thinking of coming to the CIS to meet a woman and you are using an agency, think again.

In the photo above, this western man is out on a date with a young woman and her interpreter.  The entire park – I mean EVERYBODY – stopped, and watched as they walked by.  I saw everything from incredulous looks to outright laughter.  The Ukrainians, Russians, Turks & even other Westerners couldn’t believe that this guy thought he was on a real date.  It was so obvious that it was a scam.  As I took the photo above I saw a husband, wife and daughter openly laughing at the “date” as they passed (below).

A photo is worth a thousand words.  I saw this “couple” at the Irish bar at the corner of Ekaterinburg & Deribasivskaya Streets in Odessa’s walking district.  This Indian man bought this woman dinner and cocktails and if you look at her body language and the look on her face, you can see how interested she is in him.  I was staring at them for so long that I caught her notice and she began giving me signs that she was interested in talking to me!  This poor chump dumped a load of money on a woman who has no interest in him.

Don’t EVER write letters to women using marriage agencies.  You aren’t talking to the woman, some secretary is answering your letters.  Don’t use an agency interpreter – if they require it for the first date, close the date out quickly and make an appointment to meet with your own interpreter.  Any sign of resistance to this proposition is evidence of fraud.

Be forewarned.  I know many will read this and go and do it anyways.  You’ll have no one to blame but yourself.

And for heaven’s sake, if you do go to Ukraine or another CIS country, dress up a bit.  The men above scream “poverty” with the clothes that they are wearing.  No Eastern Woman will take you seriously when you’re wearing a “Joe’s Carwash” t-shirt.  Geez..

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A letter from Matt


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… a Western man with a date & interpreter in Odessa’s walking district…

Just rec’d this email from Matt and he agreed to let me post it. Thanks for the input Matt, I’ll answer your questions in the form of comment additions to his post.  I’d love to hear from any other readers – if you have some insight on this subject, please feel free to put in your two cents as you think are appropriate:

Gotta hand it to you man… I ran across your blog and I enjoyed it quite a bit. I too have done [am doing] that eHarmony crap. (did match.com too) You’re right on the money… delusional chicks with check lists the size of the Great Wall… and they’ve already let themselves go, and their clock is ticking so loud you’d think a metronome is duct taped to your ear. As a very successful [and decent looking - go to the gym 3 times a week] professional in my 30′s, it can be hard to meet new people so I gave the online dating thing a try. Boy did I learn that even the “good looking” ones on these sites are using old pictures, or “myspace angles” – complete bait and switch bullshit. You find out only after you’re at a restaurant dropping cash.

I’ve also come to the conclusion the really good looking women, are serial daters… always on the lookout for something “better”. And since they are really good looking… well they have that luxury as there is never a shortage of men going after the hotties.

So I find myself entertaining “mail order” but I didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday and know there are tons of scams… I found a lot of what you had to say quite enlightening… and I really appreciate your posts… as I am seriously entertaining going abroad to find a woman… but still trying to put all the pieces together… so the more tips or lessons learned you post the better… for instance… if I wanted to get started on learning some of the language so that I wouldn’t need an interpreter … any learning material recommendations? etc…

Thanks again for your blog… it was a refreshing and educating read. Keep it up!

Matt – in the ol’ USofA

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Signs the West has it all wrong


Men come to the Ukraine because they want to meet an Eastern Women.  They don’t want a fat American/European woman with feminist snobbery and the arrogance that comes with so much man-hating.  And so, these men come to Odessa, Kiev and other cities in the east, they come fleeing the bad women of the west, and what do they do when they arrive?  They treat these women as though they were Western women and in doing so, they literally turn these Eastern beauties into conceited, self-centered Western style women.

I’ve dated women in Belarus and in Ukraine.  A GENUINE Eastern Woman is not interested in going to expensive restaurants or presents or flowers.  She is interested in a man who can lead, a man who can pay the bills: a responsible man.  But I watch day after day as so many of my compatriots come here – with NO “game” whatsoever, they hem and haw and ask the girls “please,” and “may I” when the women want a leader.  They want a MAN.  And so, these men act like the pussified western men that they are – it’s not their fault, they are a product of their environment - and turn the Women of the East into what the men have fled in the West.

Men: if you come to the East, do NOT take your dates out for expensive dinners.  Any woman who wants this is a scammer.  The woman who is interested in you as a man will be happy to go to her local restaurant and by your second or third date you should be invited to her home where she can show you her cooking skills.

I’ve been watching The Dog Whisperer all week and it is amazing the parallels that you can draw between that show and the interaction between men and women.  Women want an Alpha male and what they get is someone who asks permission rather than lead.  And so, we have an entire generation of Western women who have never been around real men.  And so, these pussified men (us) come to the East, hoping to find a woman who is ready for a “B” role and do we take the Alpha role?  No, we act like back in the UK or in the States, ask “please” and “may I” when these women are used to a man who sets the example: he leads.  And as I watch Caesar take the Alpha role with all of the dogs on his show I am reminded that Women – real Women – want a Man – they want a leader.

Feminists will tell you that Men and Women are equal.  That is b*llshit.  Men and Women can be given equal rights but that does not make them equal.  As in the animal kingdom (we are animals after all), there is a leader.  In Australia I’ve noticed that there are no longer husband and wife or boyfriend and girlfriend.  They have “partners.”  What a load of crap this is.  I don’t want a partner, I want a wife.

If we look throughout the animal kingdom (top photo) we can see the proper place for the sexes.  Yes ladies, cry away.  Tell me I’m a pig and then I read your eHarmony profiles about how you want a “strong” man.  You’re saying the same thing out of one side of your face and moaning some feminist ideology out of the other.

I went on a date with a beautiful Ukrainian Woman the other night.  I asked what she was looking for.  She said that she wanted:

1. Love.

2. Marriage

3. Children

4. Happiness

5. A man who was responsible and would take care of the family (ie he had a job and can pay the bills).

In return, she will be a good mother, lover and companion.

She asked what I was looking for.  I told her that I wanted a woman who wanted to be a wife and mother.  She was pleased with this.

She then told me that she was happy to raise children and keep home (far cry from the American gals) and she asked me what I thought.  I ALMOST told her that I was willing to help with house chores, etc etc.  I ALMOST told her what I thought she wanted to hear – what I thought a Western woman would want to hear.  Yes, we Western Men are truly brainwashed and I have to struggle to break free off all of this femi-nazi indoctrination I’ve received my whole life.  I told her that I would be a leader in our home and support my wife and be a good father.  She was exceptionally pleased with this answer.

I watched an episode of The Dog Whisperer wherein one woman was upset that Caesar pinned her dog to the ground until it yielded.  She was sad that her dog was forced to surrender, as though it was some form of punishment. But later, when the dog adjusted and accepted its proper place in the pack (family), she could see that the dog was quite happy to be a follower.  Caesar explained that not everyone can be the leader, but there has to be a leader.  Feminism teaches us that there is no leader in a relationship; we are partners.  Phuey!

So, we Western Men want a Woman who will follow.  And what do we do?  Do we lead?  No, we follow these Women around to high-priced restaurants with high-priced interpreters – forever tainting the pool of Women in lovely cities like Odessa.  I look around now and I see an entire pool of spoiled women here and I can see that the Western Men – and marriage agencies like Anastasia International – have spread the disease of feminism to the East.

One look at this bathroom sign that I saw in Ukraine should give you an idea of the role of the sexes over here.  It is a man’s world here.  But, the men aren’t always gentlemen and this gives an opening for Western Men.  But, if you are a gentleman, that doesn’t excuse you from the DUTY of leading.  Be a nice guy, but be a MAN and lead.  Don’t ask the Woman to follow you, take her by the hand and lead.  She will respect you for it.  If she doesn’t, she is a feminist and you’re wasting your time with her.

Really, there are only three things that give a Western Man the advantage in the East.  First, many men here are cheaters and drunks.  If you are monogamous and you aren’t a drunk you are one for three.  Secondly, it is acceptable for a 10-15 year difference in age for marriage.  If you are 45, you can still marry a 30-year-old woman.  For all of you 65-year-old men I see with 23-year-old Ukrainian super-model looking women: dream on.  You’re getting fleeced at about $20 per hour.  And third, you make more $ than Ukrainian men giving you an economic advantage.

These three advantages give you the chance to marry an Eastern Woman – provided that you are ready to fill the shoes of an Eastern Man.  Eastern Women want a wage-earning MAN who isn’t a drunk or scandalizing cheater.  But they also want a man who will lead.  They do not respect pussified men who are afraid of their own shadow.  If you can lead; if you fit this role and you have the confidence to lead, you may find success.  If not, you’re wasting your time.

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