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First and foremost, the purpose of this post is to educate. I intend to share some of the pitfalls that western men encounter when they come to the CIS (former USSR countries), especially dealing with marriage brokers and agencies.

All that said, have a look at some of these photos. Do they look a little ridiculous to you? That’s because they are ridiculous. I’ve talked to hundreds of western men and they all tell me about how this or that woman loves them or wants to meet them – but they’ve never even talked to the woman, they’ve relied on a marriage agency for communication. If you are going to communicate to a woman using an agency you have to KNOW that the agency is honest.

I have had dealings with Anastasia, Brides of Ukraine and IDC and I can say that they are all bogus!

If you look at these photos and you don’t believe that these guys have a chance in hell of marrying one of these women you have to wonder how did they come to have dates with these women. The reason is that these agencies have LIED to these men telling them that these women are interested in a relationship. I’ve sat through lunch or dinner and watched and listened to hundreds of these dates and they are all pretty much the same. The girls ask the same questions, say flattering things to the men and the men REALLY believe that they have a shot at these beauties.

It is all really quite sad.

In the photo above, in Odessa’s walking district, this guy has a date with the woman in pink. The interpreter in red/white polka dots is the interpreter. I’ve seen this woman on ‘dates” with other men using different interpreters and I’ve seen these interpreter on other dates with different women. The interpreter charges US $10 to $15 per hour and pays the woman $5 per hour to “milk the date out” as long as she can.

And so, these men take these women out for expensive dates, buy them gifts and pay interpreters for date after date that never goes anywhere.

If you are thinking of coming to the CIS to meet a woman and you are using an agency, think again.

In the photo above, this western man is out on a date with a young woman and her interpreter. The entire park – I mean EVERYBODY – stopped, and watched as they walked by. I saw everything from incredulous looks to outright laughter. The Ukrainians, Russians, Turks & even other Westerners couldn’t believe that this guy thought he was on a real date. It was so obvious that it was a scam. As I took the photo above I saw a husband, wife and daughter openly laughing at the “date” as they passed (below).

A photo is worth a thousand words. I saw this “couple” at the Irish bar at the corner of Ekaterinburg & Deribasivskaya Streets in Odessa’s walking district. This Indian man bought this woman dinner and cocktails and if you look at her body language and the look on her face, you can see how interested she is in him. I was staring at them for so long that I caught her notice and she began giving me signs that she was interested in talking to me! This poor chump dumped a load of money on a woman who has no interest in him.

Don’t EVER write letters to women using marriage agencies. You aren’t talking to the woman, some secretary is answering your letters. Don’t use an agency interpreter – if they require it for the first date, close the date out quickly and make an appointment to meet with your own interpreter. Any sign of resistance to this proposition is evidence of fraud.

Be forewarned. I know many will read this and go and do it anyways. You’ll have no one to blame but yourself.

And for heaven’s sake, if you do go to Ukraine or another CIS country, dress up a bit. The men above scream “poverty” with the clothes that they are wearing. No Eastern Woman will take you seriously when you’re wearing a “Joe’s Carwash” t-shirt. Geez..

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Wow! I only signed up for Anastasia International dating last night and by 8am this morning I already have a dozen women who want to contact me. Hmmm, that is interesting indeed as I haven’t even posted a photo or anything about myself. I might be dying of terminal cancer, have no arms and legs, be unemployed and still these hot women want to go out with me! I must be one lucky fellow.

Or maybe its a scam?

As I watch each day, so many 65-year-old, overweight American, Aussie and British men go out on dates with these spectacular looking Ukrainian women – women who are only 22 or 23 years old, I can’t help but roll my eyes and think how clueless these guys are. Well, I can’t scoff, I was about as clueless two weeks ago.

Just last night my buddy from London and my Ukrainian friend watched as two beautiful young 20-somethings dined and drank at the expense of two 45-something fat Turkish guys who really thought that they were getting somewhere. We watched as the girls rolled their eyes to each other when the men were looking away, as if to say, “Hold on a little longer sister, this date won’t last too much longer.” Clearly these girls were in this date for free sushi, vodka shots and the chance to go shopping tomorrow to fleece these guys out of some hard-earned cash. One guy was wearing an 18k gold Rolex so I figured they had some money.

As I talk to so many men from Western countries, the story repeats itself. They “date” this young attractive girl, go to expensive restaurants, drag along an expensive interpreter and after so many dates – just when the guy is becoming wary of spending so much money and suggests losing the interpret, the girl vanishes or breaks contact.

It all seemed a bit too coincidental until my Ukrainian friend provided me with a few links and then it all began to make sense. Taken from the Russian version of Facebook called “Konekt,” these ads are for IDC and other “local” agencies – the same type of agencies that supply Anastasia International women for dating. Most of these agencies “share” women profile information.

I met a guy from Iowa last week who spent a few thousand dollars dating Anastasia women and when he found that some where indeed only in it to share commissions with the interpreter he complained. Anastasia refused his complaint and would not refund his money for those dates. Buyer beware.

Any agency that uses women’s profiles from other agencies that use these kinds of tactics are just as guilty as the agencies that create the profiles. In the case of Anastasia International – each of the men here that I’ve talked to report the same thing: as soon as they cut off the interpreter and try to use their own, none of the Anastasia girls call them back. They say that 90-95% of the Anastasia women are bogus and are only dating for pay.

These adds encourage women to date as a part or full-time job – even if they have no intention of dating a foreigner or moving to a Western country. I shouldn’t even describe the ad, I should let it speak for itself:

Hello Are you [interested in the] marriage agency IDC. Would you like to become a client of our and get a free, professional photo session with one of the best photographers in Ukraine? You would be able to meet new and interesting dating and relationships, as well as the opportunity to earn some money (not sex)!

If desired, we provide you with professional photo shoot and you register on dating sites. On your behalf is correspondence [you do not have to write to the men, we will do it for you]. Just for you will come men [who want to write to you or meet you]. In this case, you can meet them, and as you can and refuse to meet. It all depends on you and your desires. The meeting is usually a dinner or lunch at the restaurant (at the request of the girls). At the meetings, usually a translator. But, you can cancel the service of an interpreter (for free), in which case you do go to a meeting with a man.

In conclusion, the male customer is obliged to give a girl in a taxi, our clients give the girls a taxi at least 200 gr (note: about $25 US, a cab ride across the whole of the city is about 50 gr).Not according to how close or far away lived a girl. You get $ 5 for every hour spent in communion with a man and a translator.

For example, if you spent 3 hours, then you will receive $ 15 and 200 UAH. by taxi. You’ll also receive gifts from men, who came to you at the meeting. Men, which is correspondence on your behalf on the sites, send you gifts. In this case, you can pick them up in the form of money or gifts to themselves. The guarantee that you will get this or that gift – you and your photos brought a gift. This site is a prerequisite for the delivery of a gift for a girl. [You don't have to do anything to] receive all the gifts that will be coming to you from the men, such as flowers, perfume, and other [valuable items].

Many of the girls (who are not interested in a serious relationship), use such agencies as a way of earning and receiving gifts.

Requirements for the following girls: good looks, age 18 to 35 years.

http://vkontakte.ru/club11875888

I’ve used the dating agency Brides of Ukraine – this agency, run by a slippery American fellow named Dion is just a “broker.” He doesn’t actually ever interact with any of the women on the profiles he publishes. He posts the profiles of other agencies and gets a “cut” of the introduction fee and the fees that are charged to interpret letters.

Now, I’m not complaining about this. I’m an adult and I spent my money freely. Thank goodness I only paid $200 for introduction fees ($50 each for 4 dates). I’ve talked to some guys that have dropped $6,000-8,000). My point in posting this is to warn the next crowd of guys who may come over and get cheated like so many other men here.

Lets have a see at my track record with Dion and his agency:

Corresponded with 1 girl for a year and 3 weeks before I arrive she emails saying that she’s taking her name of the site but that she wants to still meet me. When I arrive in Odessa she can’t be found. She never existed, I was emailing a secretary at one of the agencies.

Another girl that I corresponded with for 9 months – I received an email from her in month 9 saying “Hi, I’d like to get to know you.” Clearly that email was sent by someone other than her – I was never writing to her in the first place.

I asked for dates with 10 women who emailed me the month before my arrival. 6 of the 10 women who were so eager to “write to me” vanished upon my arrival.

Of the 4 that I did meet with, 3 cut off all contact when I wanted to use my interpreter. The 4th girl was legitimate so long as I took her to high-end restaurants and kept ordering champagne. When I insisted on pizza and beer, our relationship closed quickly.

As I have some prepaid credits, I decided to email this girl:

http://www.bridesofukraine.com/brides/russian-brides-view-lady-profile-4142.htm

My message was curt and to the point: “I am looking for a serious woman, no games. If you are interested in meeting me, please reply.”

This is the message that I received (mind you, my name is not Jeff and I’m not Asian):

Hello Jeff

How are you?

Ok, do not worry I am going to answer your questions.

Yes, you are an interesting person and I think I will like you phsically when we meet, I can’t say anythig definite now.

I would like to see myself in 5 years as a wife and a mother of my first child.

Dear, there is only my parents and me in the family and I live separately, they do not mind if I date an Asian guy.

I am very affectionate person and I will treat my man the same way as he does, I am a giving person I never cheat and I believe in true love.
You will see me someday and notice that I am very gentle.

Svetlana

Are you starting to get the picture? These girls aren’t writing these letters. Corresponding with a foreign woman through and agency isn’t corresponding at all – for all you know you’re talking to big fat Boris as he snacks on pretzels and beer writing love notes do desperate Western Men.

I thought I’d have some fun with this and I immediately emailed Dion back. I’ve caught this slippery f*ck in a few lies already. If you look up the word con-man in the dictionary, you’ll find him. I asked for a date with Svetlana. Heck, she lives in Odessa, I’m here and she just wrote me, certainly she can meet this weekend? He said he would get back to me and 5 days later I’ve received no response.

If a “rich” woman flew to the US and was trying to meet me for dinner, I’d surely make time!

Interestingly, when I arrived 2 1/2 weeks ago, he was calling me 3 times a day. After I poked some holes in his BS and complained about scammers, he doesn’t call me any more. I guess he would rather spend his time talking to 65-year-old suckers with deep pockets and bank accounts.

As I’ve said in previous posts: writing to girls you haven’t met is a waste of money. Taking girls out for dinner and drinks is a waste of money. Meet for no more than an hour, get their phone number and arrange 2nd date with your own interpreter. If she shows, she’s honest. If she doesn’t she’s dating for $.

Your call, good luck.

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